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of washington during the entire war and went down to city point, grant's headquarters on the james river and then was present, basically, for the fall of petersburg and then the conquest of richmond, the capture of richmond and then famously went to richmond with his son and walked through the streets of the city the day after the city had fallen. and it was all very dramatic and very cinematic and i was certain that was going to be what attracted steven the most. but when i sent him this massive sort of phone book-sized script, it was the january stuff he immediately glomed on to. >> it's this amazing kind of hand-to-hand combat just to get enough votes to pass this. >> yeah. >> what did you learn about lincoln in writing this? because i think one of the things i think is great about him, he sort of captures lincoln's essential weirdness. >> right. >> it's this thing that comes up time and time again that you never quite see really nailed. he's such an odd figure. what else do you feel you learned about lincoln in the context of writing this? >> i was really happy that you said that aft
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